Psalm 20:7 Some trust in chariots, and some in horses: but we will remember the name of Yahuah Eloheinu.

Originally Posted by Steve Petersen

Why? Because the Bible doesn't tell you so?

Actually, because the Tanakh says it is false in several places.

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Psalm 20:7 Some trust in chariots, and some in horses: but we will remember the name of Yahuah Eloheinu.


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#342     31st March 2013, 09:11 PM

Steve Petersen Senior Veteran   Join Date: 11th May 2005 Posts: 9,580 Blessings: 1,033,398 [Bless] Reps: 1,991,755,104,578,832,128 (power: 0)

Originally Posted by pat34lee Actually, because the Tanakh says it is false in several places. For instance...?

#343       31st March 2013, 10:00 PM

pat34lee Messianic 48   Join Date: 13th September 2011 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 1,327 Blessings: 3,126,293 [Bless] My Mood Reps: 595,732,752,466,957,952 (power: 595,732,752,466,961)

Originally Posted by Steve Petersen For instance...? The talmud claims to have been transmitted orally from Moses to Joshua to the elders and to the rabbis. This can be broken at the first link. Joshua 8 34 And afterward he read all the words of the law, the blessings and cursings, according to all that is written in the book of the law. 35 There was not a word of all that Moses commanded, which Joshua read not before all the congregation of Israel, with the women, and the little ones, and the strangers that were conversant among them. Joshua read every word that Moses commanded. All of it was written down. Deuteronomy 30 10 If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul. 11 For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off. All of the statutes they were to obey were written down. Deuteronomy 29 29 The secret things belong unto the Lord our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law. Everything we need to know in order to follow the law is in the law. Deuteronomy 4 2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you. No fences are needed around the Torah, as it is perfect as written. When you change the focus of a command, you change the command. If you look at how Eve was deceived in the garden, it seems that Adam built a fence around the command God gave him concerning the tree. He was the only one who could have told Eve "neither shall ye touch it". The serpent was able to show that part was a lie, and cast doubt on the real command. See also 2 Kings 22 and Nehemiah 8. __________________ Psalm 20:7 Some trust in chariots, and some in horses: but we will remember the name of Yahuah Eloheinu. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 2 posts.

#344     31st March 2013, 10:10 PM

Steve Petersen Senior Veteran   Join Date: 11th May 2005 Posts: 9,580 Blessings: 1,033,398 [Bless] Reps: 1,991,755,104,578,832,128 (power: 0)

The Torah which was written down gave the priests and elders the authority to make binding legal rulings for Israel (Deuteronomy 17.) Even Jesus recognized this in Matthew 23.

#345       31st March 2013, 11:43 PM

pat34lee Messianic 48   Join Date: 13th September 2011 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 1,327 Blessings: 3,126,293 [Bless] My Mood Reps: 595,732,752,466,957,952 (power: 595,732,752,466,961)

Originally Posted by Steve Petersen The Torah which was written down gave the priests and elders the authority to make binding legal rulings for Israel (Deuteronomy 17.) Even Jesus recognized this in Matthew 23. No book or set of laws can cover every conceivable circumstance. This is why judges were necessary. They were not to make law from nothing, or to change the law, but to apply the principles of the Torah to new situations as they arose. __________________